Lucy Liu (China)

I did not know that Lucy Liu worked in a pajama factory at the age of eleven. I stumbled across a Wiki entry that I have been trying to verify with little success, but if that is the case then I can see where some of her angst comes from. According to the entry she admits to "blocking it out" which is NOT good. I also know that in an Askmen.com interview she stated that her father had hung a picture of a starving boy over the doorway to the dining room dinner table.

A guy said today that the best way to change her image would be to attack it by going through it or from it to that next point beyond it. I agree.

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geesehoward4life, Lucy will not be the last asian actress whith have in plan to make changing her image. as image can be spoiled by dumb ass paparazzi of mud diggers from the past so easily. the main thing making Lucy being smart is that she have not done too much in extreme cinema (or photo shots). I'm searching pictures from all our girls here and sometime I go scrowling in deep oriented links but I've never found matter of some ambiguous photos of her yet. wathever I don't really care if an Idol have posed in some glamorous nude photoshots or have been involved in soft porn productions in the past. I'm above that. as you wrote, if Lucy have worked in a shoe factory in Pajama won't change anything for my perception of the actress. it depends of the persons, I'm immunized.

Lucy's problem stems from taking roles that always portray her as cold and bitchy or the "Exotic Asian sex doll" with whips and chains. These things come from years of Ally McBeal as Ling Woo and Payback... so her role as O-Ren was actually just a cut, copy and paste of certain issues that she ACTUALLY HAS. Lucy Liu is notorious for NOT wanting anything to do with the Race issue, but often laments about how hard it is for her to find quality roles.

I have the youtube of her at the Film Festival, I think it was Sundance, it just passed not too long ago, where she just starts going off on a tangent right in the middle of her press junket about why she did certain movies or took certain roles, I'm sorry, but it was crystal clear that it bothers her to be seen so negatively or positively and amongst most Asian Americans she is not exactly high on their list of fan favorites and is seen as a stuck-up sellout who only dates White men, but complains about the way that the White male dominated industry keeps her down, huh?

I just think that it is hard for her to speak her peace and she already has admitted that she is NOT good with words, but also, her actions are really all over the place at times. She just doesn't seem comfortable, but as I have done more digging I have seen why. Having your mom cut your hair so that you look like a boy doesn't help a young girls self-esteem and then she already said that she felt inferior to the White girls and women she would be around growing up.

I believe she needs good friends who will be honest with her and help her and I also believe that she needs a man who will honestly listen to her and not brush her off. Even my own mother said she thinks she has a LOT of issues that the average man, just doesn't wanna listen to her talk about. She already said she thinks she will end up living alone and has joked about why she doesn't have a boyfriend. It is very sad to me, but it is up to her to take charge of her life. I do not believe she thinks she can and she cannot seem to find a man who would want to support her and help her find that strength or lend her his own, it is sad to me.

These pics are from the movie premier of 3 Needles which was only limited release and quickly gone in the United States. Her useless fanboy fanbase has abandoned her as she has gotten older

I am sorry, but I think that she is a very beautiful woman regardless of her age and I think she is really looking for someone that she can actually be with and be there for, but no one seems to remember that she is a woman and a person before they see their Asian Fetish Fantasy. I critize her at times because her actions sometimes hurt her and it seems that no one gives her good advice or like she has no one to confide in.

They want to see her doing pics like this one;

She does her share of black and white semi-nude pictures, but usually in the UK or for publications in Europe. I am now trying to get the permission for the book, if successful I believe, even though it is a book, everyone knows that Lucy Liu portrayed O-Ren in the movie, I think it will really humanize her and if it should become anything more, it will give her that chance to show some actual acting range and tell the rest of the story for one of her characters at long last.
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I have started working on the next book entitled Lady Yoma.

One of the characters is a member of the Supreme Council of Earth and is stuck between following partyline politics or standing with Lady Yoma with the possibility of being killed. I created Lady Liu specifically with Lucy Liu in mind and I've been working on Chapter One as well as working on who, what, where and why for the entire book...

Lady Alison Liu sits on the Supreme Council of Earth (SCE) and has strong ties to the Yoma clan of the Japanese Empire and knew Lady Yoma Sayo before she gave her life to defend the Terrain Empire during the Great Yokai War. Lady Liu has been a friend of Lady Yoma Sayo's daughter, Sayoko who has practically lost control of the Yoma clan for many reasons.

The Liu Clan, like the Yoma, are an arcane clan, which is exactly what it means. Members of their bloodline have the natural capability to use magic and due to events leading up to the Great Yokai War, Lady Yoma Sayo created the Council of Archmagi to counter the invasion of the Yokai from their own dimension into the Empires. Sayo lost her life creating the Great Barrier which blocks dimensional travel and thus blocks dimensional invasion as well.

While Sayo was alive, Lady Liu often tried to get Sayo to leave well enough alone and not gather all of the various arcane clans of earth under one banner. In the end, in order to combat the invasion Sayo had no choice, but ten years later, after the war. The ruling SCE has become fearful of the legacy of Lady Yoma, the Council of the Archmagi and even more fearful of her daughter, Sayoko, who is rumored to be even more powerful than her mother.

Lady Liu has tried her best to keep Sayoko out of politics, but Sayoko has her own internal problems with the Council of Elders of the Yoma. Sayoko, along with her sworn sister and her mother's other student, Song-Yune, were on last mission with Sayo when she gave up her life to seal-off their dimension from ALL dimensional intrusion, expending all of her lifeforce in the process.

At 16, Sayoko became the head of the Yoma and the heroic deeds of her mother skyrocketed Sayoko and Song-Yune to being the students and daughters of the Great Heroine and savior of the Empire, which effectively changed life as they both knew it. Song-Yune, a member of the Yi Family of Koryo, returned home to a the support of her family and rose to power, while Sayoko...

Became trapped in a power struggle within her own clan. Lady Liu has been hearing rumors that the SCE, now that 10 years have passed, want to bring the Council of Archmagi directly under its control and purge any clans that could very well cause trouble should it become known that Sayoko's mothers sacrifice was actually a forced manuver by the SCE. The Liu Clan, reknown for their shrewd insights, never joined the Council of Archmagi and instead retained their spot on the SCE, but with the possibility that Sayoko may be killed, Lady Liu has to decide if she can stomach another sacrifice for "the greater good of the Empire."
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Well Lucy has a new movie called Code Name; Cleaner with Cedric the Entertainer. Wish her luck because this one, I got no clue how well this will do. She claimed in an interview that it's not about the box office sales. I hope that's true.

geesehoward, seen the movie you're talking about in the IMDb, it's annouced for 2007 indeed.

I think that is a familial entertainment movie viewing the cast and the storyboard. should work in US, with no doubt. outside US... it's another story.

Where do I begin... I have so much information, but I am pressed for time. I will stop through later on in the week, but Lucy Liu? Sheesh, she is her OWN---- WORST------NIGHTMARE!!!!

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Code name cleaner, more like Code name CRAP! This movie has managed to piss off Blacks, Asians, Whites, just utter garbage, HORRIBLE!
I have pictures, I have controversy, I have to recite a prayer for this woman. I have said it before, I am a fan, but I'm not blind... this woman needs help, BADLY!

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It has been a while since I typed anything here in regards to my funny Valentine. Although I have never liked or used the phrase "my funny Valentine" I would have to say that it fits. First... where do I begin? In mid-December TV Talk Show host Rosie O'Donnel made a comment in regards when Danny DeVito was on their show here in America and appeared to be drunk.
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Hey, I'm just passing this information along to you because it goes with the story. Anyway, Rosie O'Donnel a former stand-up comic and a known lesbian, had just finished battling it out with words with another daytime talk show host. The fight was over Rosie's belief that midmorning TV talk show hostess Kelly Ripa, was somehow "homophobic" in reaction to having her mouth covered by guest host Clay Aiken.
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Trust me, their is a point here... I just have to give you ALLLLL the information so that you're up to speed. Anyway... Rosie attacked Kelly Ripa's reaction to having her mouth covered... yeah... everyone loves to have some stranger covering their mouth while they're talking. Bottom line is Rosie started verbally attacking Kelly's reaction and nonsense was quickly started as the two women battled it out on their respective shows. Eventually the nonsense ended and life went on.
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After Danny DeVito was on, Rosie decided to TRY and make a joke out of it by saying "I wonder what it would sound like when it is reported in China that Danny DeVito was possibly drunk on the View?"
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Rosie then starts a Ching Chong joke of how it would sound reported in Chinese. Mind you... to the best of MY KNOWLEDGE... there is no such language as "Chinese". There is Mandarin, Canton I believe and a bunch of different Chinese dialects, but there is NO CHINESE, single solitary language. So now if a peon like me knows this... what exactly is the excuse for someone who has hosted her own daytime Talk shows, interviewed countless people, etc?
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Anyway, the history of the word "ching chong" is a negative RACIAL SLUR used on Asian American's and was originally directed at Chinese men during the railway building in Western America where Whites slurred Chinese and eventually all Asians, much the way that the word nigger was used to slur Blacks.
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Now... I'm Black... I'm not Asian or Asian American, but even I KNOW that the word phrase "ching chong" is a slap in the face of Asian people. karate

How the hell can I know this and Rosie doesn't?

Now... you ask... what does any of THIS have to do with my favorite Bitch Queen? Like a Star @ heaven

Well, unfortunately, when the Asian American community and the Chinese press, YES, Rosie's comments actually got press in China and people weren't too thrilled. Well, when Rosie made her comments she was IMMEDIATELY called on the carpet! Many expressed outrage and demanded an apology. SO... the media decided to have a "quick little debate" and lo and behold who comes in to say this comment;

And then there's Liu vs. Liu -- New York City Councilman John Liu versus actress Lucy Liu, that is. John Liu, who's emerged as the only Asian American politician regularly willing to put his name on the line in the face of racist shenanigans, issued an early press release condemning Rosie O'Donnell's stupid and offensive "ching-chong ching-chong" gag on "The View." After O'Donnell issued a weak apology -- of the "I'm sorry if you were offended" variety -- Liu was brought on CNN's "Showbiz Tonight" to respond. Naturally, the producers decided to offer a counterpoint, in the form of Lucy, no relation -- who essentially told John to lighten up: "Comedians do things that are outrageous and not politically correct all the time. ... I think that if everyone had to apologize for everything, then it would just be ridiculous."

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Sigh... When I first read this statement... I really couldn't... believe... that she would come out and say what she said. I will be the first to admit that in the course of writing Walking Dead I had to do a lot of research and I had to do that research because the book is written to go along with the Kill Bill movies and, AND, move forward from them.

So since the reader would have a visual to the character of O-Ren, I decided that I needed to learn more about the actual actress who brought the character of O-Ren to life. And so... my bizarre love/hate relationship with the actress known as Lucy Liu was set in motion like the wheels of some sort of creepy fate. By the time I started reading up on her and looking at her movies I was left with nothing but "How in the world can anybody say she is a good actress when almost everything she does is some sort of "caricature" or stereotype? She gets almost no chances to grow in her roles, the range of her parts are so minimal. I can't possibly believe that she finds these roles 'challenging' when I can go outside, throw a rock at some woman walking by and get pretty much the same response that she gives off in most of her roles."

So... I had to do more work in regards to American society and really start asking "Why is this woman 'supposedly' famous?"

What I found was what I have already stated here, but I will say it again. It has everything to do with nothing. Never in my life have I heard more superficial and unimportant nonsense. In the end it had to do with the fact that she was Asian and she was/is "hot" and she's really sexy and she's so bitchy and "feisty"... after awhile I thought they were talking about somebodies tabby house cat more than an actual woman. But worse than that I found that too many White American men were more enamored with the fact that she was Asian and could really care less about whether she could act or not.

I found Black Americans who said the same things, but in smaller numbers. Asian Americans? She is either the worst thing since hair lice or she's just a tool of the White man, which is... not a good thing. Most Asian Americans were deeply divided either for or against Lucy Liu mostly because of her behavior and comments. Many Asian men were disgusted with her total contempt for them and the fact that she will not date an Asian man and only dates White men. Now, I have yet to find any comments where Lucy Liu said she won't date Asian men, but I also have not found any pictures of her caught with ANY other man except for White men... which even I have had to admit is weird. This coupled with her comments about feeling inferior are a disaster waiting to happen, which... has already happened. Her unwillingness to address her private life and her unwillingness to explain her actions... leaves everything open to interpretation...BAD interpretation.

Granted I didn't and couldn't take a gigantic Gallop Poll, but among most men, their liking of her was more about fetish fantasy crap instead of; can this woman actually act? The more I looked into things it had and has, a lot to do with the fact that Asian Americans aren't really spotlighted in American media forums, ESPECIALLY Asian American men. The more digging I did the more I was concerned that much of Lucy Liu's fanbase was composed of mindless lustful pervs more so people that actually wanted her to succeed as an actress.

So to write something that could be seen as acceptable was starting to turn into an adventure within itself. I did send out and talk about some "character concepts" for O-Ren in the book, but because people "knew" who Lucy Liu was, they couldn't ACCEPT the character concepts because they had no belief that Lucy Liu could portray someone like what I had told them about.

So I had to write something that people could "believe" or actually envision Lucy Liu acting through. Being the fool that I am, I took this as the challenge that it is and decided that if you need to change someone's image then you have to start off where people accept them being at and then move gradually from Point A to Point B and move at a slow pace so that people can honestly see that THIS is why this person is the way that they are and then show the person in question, working through their own faults and trying to find the solution to probably the biggest riddle that man has... ourselves.

It was in all of this that I realized that part of Lucy Liu's problem is that she really doesn't understand herself or perhaps she does, but does not have the means to actually move in the direction she actually and honestly wants to be in. But even with that said, she has said and done things that have really put her at odds with her own community and her own people at times. She went to Michigan U and studied Asian culture, but was shocked when she came under fire by many Chinese for portraying O-Ren who was half-Japanese.

Even I, know the bad blood that still exists between China and Japan, so to see and read the utter "shock" by Lucy Liu, who studied Asian culture? Suspect

How can you study Asian culture and then NOT KNOW that you might get some negative feedback for portraying a character that is half-Japanese? Let me be crystal clear, it is not that she CAN'T portray the character and it is not that she SHOULDN'T, but it is the childlike lack of understanding that perplexes me to the point of saying "No one can be THIS CLUELESS... least I hope not."

I write all of this because I have seen her breakdown over the last year, publicly, and just start ranting, because the pressure is getting to her. I have found things during my time of working on Walking Dead, where I believe that she has major, major, MAJOR ISSUES with her father. She's already been too public about how she felt inferior to White girls as she grew up. I know for a fact that her parents weren't too helpful with her self-esteem and it appears that these issues were never resolved by her or them and she's dragging them along with her.

Is she is a good actress? I really don't think so, but not because she isn't, but solely because she is not challenged at all. She is either the bitchy woman, desperate housewife the Asian edition or the Asian fantasy... and that about sums up her career. Yes she was somewhat goofy in Charlie's Angels, but fluff material is not exactly what you wanna be remembered for in the acting profession, at least, I don't get that feeling from her that she wants to be remembered for being a fluff actress. Her decision making is suspect and most of her successful parts have been strickly tailored and given to her. David E Kelly created Ling Woo specifically for her. Tarantino created O-Ren specifically for her. Even F. Scott Fitzgerald created Jin Ping for her and then Liu re-wrote and expanded on it. Charlie's Angels fell to her after the last angel part had to be totally re-written when they could not get any Black actresses to accept the role.

Which I find very interesting. Not one of the Black actresses they went to would accept the part... at all. So, they re-cast the part and finally picked Lucy Liu. It is always interesting to me, when you do the legwork to find information and find out that things aren't exactly what they seem.

From everything that I have found she is extremely sensitive, even though she is constantly playing these characters that are generally insensitive, unfeeling, bitches or they are the exact opposite and are just as useless. I also realize that her high salary demand comes from Charlie's Angels success and NOT because she is an A-caliber actress. I do not know where this new book will land me, but the character of Alison Liu is already set in stone so that should it do well then maybe I can affect some kind of positive difference in Lucy Liu's career. I do not know whether it will get that far or even if she would even accept the part... I'll cross that bridge should I get to it, but... I am curious about how Lucy Liu will be remembered.

Ahh, Rich actually thinks that somehow when all of my work is done that I will somehow end up with Lucy Liu... my brother laughed but said "It could happen, you've been pretty accurate about her Hollywood status since you started, as well as her so-called fame."

Whatever... but one thing I do know, I wish her the best Valentine's Day no matter where she is, my beautiful Bitch Queen... jedi

Ha, me with Lucy Liu? What in the world could she have possibly done to deserve that fate! lol!

Lucy has a new movie coming out called; Rise Blood Hunter and another one called Watching the Detectives.

Saw the trailer for Rise, it stunk. And I ain't rushing to the theater to see Watching the Detectives.

She is also scheduled to be involved with a TV drama called Cashmere Mafia, but the pilots will be shown during the summer months, which to my understanding is NOT a good vote of confidence. I just think, she's run her course with the whole Sexy/Bitchy/Asian/Sexy/Bitchy/Slutty thing... that could be a good thing for me... only time will tell...

Lucy's movie, Rise of the Blood Hunter, did absolutely positively TERRIBLE! It was a TOTAL FLOP! People are starting to question when did she become a B-movie actress!? Sad2

I still love Lucy Liu... even though her talent agency said they don't accept unsolicited manuscripts Sad2

Such is life! lol!

Just looked over a return that I got from when I sent out the Walking Dead manuscript and I was told that Lucy's talent agency doesn't accept unsolicited manuscripts. It made me realize that one reason why Hollywood movies and American entertainment is becoming stale is due to the fact that money is playing a bigger and bigger part in what studios do.

Lucy Liu's television drama Cashmere Mafia has seemingly disappeared. It was supposed to air this Fall, but I haven't heard anything about it yet. The show was initially going to be shown during the summer to see if it warranted a Fall run, but they decided to simply air it this Fall... I guess they remembered that Lucy Liu is supposed to be a big time star, so they skipped the summer try-outs and opted for showing it in the Fall line-up on ABC, but I haven't seen hyde, nor hair of this show, so? Its up in the air, more on this as it developes...

Found out from a friend, that Cashmere Mafia will debut in December. I don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing? Either way, a sneak peek will be aired on Nov 27th, I believe they said.

Since I can't seem to find this topic;

DVD Kill Bill 1/2, then I will simply post the fact that the Special Editions for the United States is finally coming out this December, but what EXACTLY is on these disk is anyone's guess...