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best chemistry Lady coldheart & フリーター admin


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| Subject: Can p0rn0graphy be art? Wed 20 Dec - 22:32 | |
| Can p0rn0graphy be art?
In his mid-fifties, fat and always slightly transpiring. That is the idea of a porn consumer in our country. Corresponding to this are the not ony technically unbearable movies that go over the counter everyday in the local sex shops. Like robots the actors rush from one copulation to the other, presented in close-ups or in great detail, requiring of actors only a flexible body (and a big dick, the translator). Head and heart are left out. It is a different story in the land of the rising sun. The Japanese "pinkku"-movies are also not appropriate for prudish minds, but they tell real stories. And the open display of genitals and pubic hair is still strictly forbidden by the Japanese censorship authorities.
Pink movies follow certain rules. Professionally shot on 16 mm or 35 mm, a length of about 60 minutes and most important: the budget is limited to 35.000 US-dollars. The demand in Japan is immense: the porn industry spews out up to six movies per month. Not at the expense of the content which isn`t subject to any limitations. Directors like experimental filmmaker Hiroyuki Oki ("I like you, I like you vely much") use the pink-film system to realize their own real movie ideas. This has led to a blossoming of the Japanese film avantgarde in the p0rn field - apart form the major studios.
- Jon Wilson
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kawaii-hime Ex staff kitty & フリーター admin


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prisoner_701 Official Pinky violence team


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| Subject: Re: Can p0rn0graphy be art? Wed 21 Nov - 20:13 | |
| Hello best chemistry, interesting topic...although I do not fit the profile of the man given above, I've been know to see a film or two ...
There are likely many articles on the subject but once again I am drawn to Midnight Eye. They have some excellent features on porno and pinku film from Japan. Here is their article on porno in Japan. A furthere search on their site will give a couple of articles on pinku cinema, where they talk about the directors. Here is one on Tetsuji TAKECHI and an over-view of pinku directors here. Interesting that many of their directors have no trouble working in all genres, porno, pinku and mainstream as it is generally agreed that the pink film provides a training ground for many of today's top directors, including Takahisa Zeze (Moon Child), Ryuichi Hiroki (Vibrator), Yojiro Takita (When the Last Sword is Drawn) and Masayuki Suo (Shall We Dance), as well as turning out such notable "directors from times past as Koji Wakamatsu (exstacy of the angels), Banmei Takahashi and Masao Adachi.
Regarding the question that this thread is asking...Can pornography be art??? Well, darn it!!! this is close to the question that drove me crazy when in my two years at art school...what is art? I never did come up with a satisfactory answer, and I left the program after 2 years, totally frustrated. NOt just because of that question though...more later. I will be able to add to this thread. Oh, and lovey picture of Sakura, nice to see her with clothes on ...Interesting note about Sakura, while many JAV stars present a kawaii self image, Sakura has never ever tried...she is a natural predator (and on occasion victim). Never cute though. |
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best chemistry Lady coldheart & フリーター admin


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| Subject: Re: Can p0rn0graphy be art? Thu 22 Nov - 10:39 | |
| Hello Prisoner,
I wanted to jump on your statement, there are evidences that many great japanese directors have ignited their career on Pink movies. I'm not knowledgeable to answer if P0rn or Pink is art, but the scheme is the same as for maintsream cinema. I mean a plot, a dialoguist, a producer, (cute) actresses, filming crew + technical staff and finally an audience. let's say that the storyboard may be reduced to a simple expression, same as dialoguist contribution on p0rn, but not on Pink. we have overviewed a rich sample of Pink movies here on KnT, and it will be dishonest to not see in some of these movies, some rare pearls.
carrying the discussion will ask when start/finish Pink and same for p0rn. Most people, not only specialists will be able to say when finish mainstream cinema. the above boundary is more delicate to elucidate.
I can add that basically, there are less people willing to debate on the subject, making investigation slowing down each time.
a word about Sakura Sakurada. I knew she was famous, but it's very hard to find something about her, where she lives, what's she's doing when she don't act, do she self-produce, etc etc. Sakura (not our Sakura ) is not in the same segment than Sora Aoi. The main difference is about the censorship on their appearences. it was not difficult to observe that Sora, who seems to be an "all public" idol in Japan, have never been involved in uncensored productions. Sakura have done most of her movies without censorship. my babble was to underline that p0rn may also be segmented.
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eve Fatale Kitty


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| Subject: Re: Can p0rn0graphy be art? Thu 22 Nov - 11:27 | |
| I think I'm going to learn something reding this topic  |
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prisoner_701 Official Pinky violence team


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| Subject: Sakura and the start of something new Thu 22 Nov - 23:33 | |
| There are a few areas that we can touch on here.
First I will address Sakura Sakurada…

no she is not in the same league as Sora Aoi. Not that she is not as famous, she may well be, but she willingly seems to go to a more extreme form of pornography. Where Sora is famous, Sakura is notorious. Many wonder why she does what she does, but her private life is so concealed that no one has any insight into what makes her tick, and what makes her perform the way she does. You can psycho-analyze her to bits…but the truth is not known. However, notice my use of the word perform. Sakura is such a fine actress, that men all over the world want to protect her and come to her aid…they are convinced that she is being abused and manipulated and coerced into doing her films. She easily convinces them of her dire straight…she is an actress of the very highest caliber really…and for this simple reason I think that what she does can fall into the category of ART…even though it is difficult to understand why she does what she does…she acts and creates an image that evokes feelings of understanding from those that view her…sounds like a definition of art doesn’t it?
Sakura is beautiful. She has a lovely, yet hardened face with a full figure…and no one has ever alluded to her having augmented features. She is a natural beauty. Although she has acted in many mainstream pornographic films, she has made her name by entering into the more extreme arena. She has seduced a much older man (likely in his 70’s), she made a film that supposedly saw her having a manage et trois with her mother! Was it her mother? I cannot confirm, but her acting was enough to make everyone who viewed her think it was. She is also noted for taking a completely dominant role with her partners, she can entertain roomfuls of men, and the most notorious film she did was a particularly nasty abduction film that involved a golden retriever at the end. While there are more extreme JAV films on the market (and I have not seen those), Sakura is one of the few high profile JAV actress that does do such extreme scenarios.
Also, she is also one of the few (but there is a growing trend) of JAV actresses that perform without censor. Some of the outfits are stationed in Europe.

Knowing this is in the main forum section I am trying to keep everything PG. Let me know if I am succeeding.
Part two later… |
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eve Fatale Kitty


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| Subject: Re: Can p0rn0graphy be art? Fri 23 Nov - 9:22 | |
| | This Sakura is a stunning beauty. I can't catch her motivations. Should I make an effort to see her on a film. |
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kawaii-hime Ex staff kitty & フリーター admin


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| Subject: Re: Can p0rn0graphy be art? Fri 23 Nov - 13:28 | |
| | Prisoner 701, your explanations are in our guidelines. Speaking about is clear for us. The speaking of who should require necessary restrictions on this main area. |
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prodigy Friends of KnT


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| Subject: Re: Can p0rn0graphy be art? Fri 23 Nov - 17:55 | |
| what is outfits in europe??? they turn films of Japan in europe ?
this girl is beauty actress  |
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2Xgals lover++ Malicious kitty


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| Subject: Re: Can p0rn0graphy be art? Mon 26 Nov - 11:18 | |
| nop understanding difference in ABOUT and OF 
cannot speak about if U have not seen some, right ? |
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Strapon Side Hot kitty


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| Subject: Re: Can p0rn0graphy be art? Mon 26 Nov - 14:06 | |
| | Take a break and a good laugh with these light-hearted films lol :: |
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prisoner_701 Official Pinky violence team


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| Subject: Re: Can p0rn0graphy be art? Mon 26 Nov - 19:56 | |
| Hello Best Chemistry,
Somewhere, sometime I heard that Sakura exhibited some art so I have been frantically trying to locate the site where I heard that. Although not much of an artist I am afraid...she did these works prior to getting into the JAV business.
 
Of course the question of whether it is THE Sakura was asked...and some Japanese visitor said that the name is uniquely signed and that Sakuara Sakurada (cherry blossom cherry blossom field) is not common at all. Fumi may be able to help with this as I can only write what was said in English 
Of course the question of what is art come up here...as I think the only original bit she has done is paste a pair of cut out eyes on a picture...so  |
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eve Fatale Kitty


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| Subject: Re: Can p0rn0graphy be art? Tue 27 Nov - 11:18 | |
| | So nobody knows about Sakura's life, only this small collages she done before becoming famous. This is intriguing. |
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| Subject: Re: Can p0rn0graphy be art? Tue 27 Nov - 15:59 | |
| | ---- wanna bang a lezzy slut ---- |
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eve Fatale Kitty


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| Subject: Re: Can p0rn0graphy be art? Wed 28 Nov - 9:31 | |
| | What else ? |
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| Subject: Re: Can p0rn0graphy be art? Thu 29 Nov - 14:23 | |
| | i think its art. not seen many XD (not lying) boys cant possibly live up to their expectations without o_O |
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kawaii-hime Ex staff kitty & フリーター admin


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| Subject: Re: Can p0rn0graphy be art? Thu 29 Nov - 14:44 | |
| | Kim, that is an interesting assumption. Please take time to develop a little bit more. |
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