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| Subject: Japanese actresses, nudity and cinema Sun 4 Feb - 22:50 | |
| a few weeks ago, we've found an interesting paper on-line but at time, we have not found opportune to speak about her. meanwhile, we've forgotten it.
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Aging starlets, fallen angels tipped for stark supernova
With each new year in Japan, rumors start wafting around about who'll become the newest star to bare all for the cameras.
Some women regarded as certainties to get their gear off eventually decide not to do so, while others most would never dream of seeing in the raw turn out to be the first to shed their threads, according to Shukan Shincho (1/15).
"There're three factors that determine whether a woman celebrity will pose -- if she's just ended a long relationship, she's been caught up in a scandal, or her career's at the crossroads," a nugaseya, the name given to those who convince stars to get their gear off, tells Shukan Shincho. "If a female celebrity has a steady flow of work, she's probably not going to resort to going nude."
Prime target to bare all is 24-year-old actress Hitomi Manaka.
"Her main TV drama was axed because its ratings were so low and now she's out of work," a reporter on the entertainment beat tells Shukan Shincho. "I've heard there have been proposals for her to do a nude shoot, but whether she accepts them will depend on how successful her other jobs turn out this year."
A manager at a top talent agency points the finger at aging starlets like 33-year-old Hiromi Nagasaku and 27-year-old Haruka Igawa.
"Nagasaku has always got by because of her baby face, but she's getting a bit old for that now. She's been typecast and there's not much work out there for her now. It'd be a refreshing surprise to see somebody with such a baby face posing nude," the manager says. "As for Igawa, who's making a decent show of being an actress after starting her career as a pin-up girl, there isn't too much working against her, but with a face as lovely as hers, people would be sure to buy any shots of her in the buff."
Another reporter on the glitterati nominates 23-year-old Yoko Kamon and 30-year-old Yumiko Takahashi as potential nudes.
"Takahashi is the last remaining pure idol. She's got plenty of geek fans, as her run-in last year with a stalker showed. She'd sell," the hack tells Shukan Shincho. "Kamon's career lost a lot of its luster after it was revealed she had been dating (convicted hard drug user) Yuya Takahashi. I've heard there've been offers for her to bare all."
Former top star of the all-girl Takarazuka dance troupe Yuki Amami, at 36, is the nugaseya's top choice.
"Amami quit her last talent agency in a huff because it couldn't find any decent work for her," the nugaseya tells Shukan Shincho. "Depending on her job situation, it may not be too long before we've got another Takarazuka nude on our hands."
January 13, 2004
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|  | | geesehoward4life Evil American


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| Subject: Re: Japanese actresses, nudity and cinema Sun 4 Feb - 23:21 | |
| Wow, where to start with this one?
Like I posted in the Chiaki threads, the age of a Japanese woman is a huge deal. Youth, age, beauty, it is a never ending and all-important image factor in Japanese society where maintaining that youthful look is crucial!
My question is can ANY of these actresses ACTUALLY ACT!? I got into a huge battle/flame war when I first came to the Chiaki Fandom and simply spoke the truth. Japanese idea's of acting and talent are not always backed up by ACTUAL TALENT but by the general feelings that the particular agency or judges got from THAT PERSON... and sometimes ACTING TALENT is the LAST THING that they list.
I know for a fact that Aya Ueto discovery was purely based on her looks! If I even remember, she DIDN'T EVEN PLACE at the Pagent she went to BUT the Judges... all men if I remember, were enamored by her BEAUTY and her demeanor... translation; Young supple pervy attack! Use the Force Luke! LOL! These Judges MADE UP an award and GAVE IT TO AYA! That, is FUNNY AS HELL! But this was the springboard of her career, but my concern has always been; What happens when she gets old? What happens if people just get TIRED OF HER? She dropped out of school and has NO High School Diploma! What will she do if something bad should happen to her like an injury?
I just found the whole thing concerning.
Oh and I love the agency manager! He's lookin forward to some pervy pictures of some of these actresses! |
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| Subject: Re: Japanese actresses, nudity and cinema Wed 7 Feb - 17:45 | |
| Hello Geesehoward4life,
amazing is when this kind of subject fall on the table, Aya Ueto is often push as a living example. well I can't say other way because I have the same feeling about these japanese actresses.
first before anything else, the girl must be (not should be) cute. it's the first layer. cute girl allows photobooks and then, from anonym stage she is propulsed in gravure idol stage (basically very quickly). at this stage, girls can exist in the media for many years, if no fatal events occurs, as you pinpointed previously. now that's here where manager acts, trying to find how doing more benefice with their " cute protégé". I introduce the notion of girl X (cute girl under the spell of a managment system)
if girl X is able to memorise a few sentences from a script, she could do her debut in cinema. if girl X can memorise a whole song and if she's able to move her bum-bum correctly, she could do her debut in singing industry. we have a complete topic dedicated to Hello ! Project, which is a true treasure spot of adorable future talents. let's move one step ahead in such reasoning, if a girl X (who is still upposed cute) have a D-cup bra, she could do her debut in adult industry. it's a shortcut but I have the feeling that it's not far from reallity.
all this is added to the conventional stream of natural acting talents, from dogmatic acting institute or universities.
I fully agree with you in all these points, what attracts me in japanese cinema is the beauty of the actresses. true is also that young actresses are not really good actresses, but this doesn't disturb me more than that. this is part of the chemistry between me and these actresses. real talents are found with actresses above ten movies, not two or three movies.
to finish my claim I would like to highlight the fact that there is a tremendous stock of available actresse candidat with the japanese idol system. casting could be embarrassing if they all have the same small talent and all do the same thing. why choosing girl K intsead of girl M ? sexy scenes in a script make the selection. I also have Darwinian view (as Prisoner does) for some social activities.
more latter, I'm buzy ++
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| Subject: Re: Japanese actresses, nudity and cinema Fri 9 Feb - 11:17 | |
| | geesehoward4life wrote: | | Oh and I love the agency manager! He's lookin forward to some pervy pictures of some of these actresses! |
how disturbing idea! hahaha you re funny geeseward!
did you know that all managers want to see their girls naked ? |
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| Subject: Re: Japanese actresses, nudity and cinema Fri 9 Feb - 23:33 | |
| WTF~! managers are all pervies, what they do this kind of business, must be pervy...
Man, that s cool job really. japanese gals are not idiots, see what s happening in other regions, starlets always have provocative poses and often fall bra for glory~!
you know, perhaps we focalize on japanese gals, seems to be more naked pix... I dunno kinda confused~! |
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| Subject: Re: Japanese actresses, nudity and cinema Sun 11 Feb - 17:25 | |
| hi all
falling bra is not a duty, think about all actresses were never done that in their life. myself is thinking there are only a small proportion of incidences like that in normal actress job.
once could say, there are often love sketches in ordinary flicks, usually people don t wear anything in case. much I like love scenes but I m often unconfortable when nudity is shown. a reason if I appreciate the actress before. |
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| Subject: Re: Japanese actresses, nudity and cinema Sun 11 Feb - 19:58 | |
| yeah~! some way they are not forced to be naked but if the script says she MUST be naked in the love scene she have choice to refuse~!
but she will loose the roll~! |
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| Subject: Re: Japanese actresses, nudity and cinema Sun 11 Feb - 20:29 | |
| Good evening W&F,
If I was you, I will not be so sure. If the script of a "love scene" says the main actress is supposed to be in Eve-costume, there are many camera angles making this scene being not nude, I mean frontally nude. I have a quite good recent example with the young Keiko Kitagawa in Romance of Darkness. Keiko have some "love scenes" but nothing more than the upper part of her back and her chest is finally seen on screen. Keiko is a young actress and honestly, nothing could have been add to the movie, nothing good to her career if she have accepted to do more spicy demonstrations.
Now, if the script requires complete frontal nudity, well in my humble opinion, it's not a shame to loose this kind of role for a young talentuous actress.
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| Subject: Re: Japanese actresses, nudity and cinema Mon 12 Feb - 13:03 | |
| | in 2046 there are luvscenes with Zhang Ziyi and from what i seen here, she was not full naked. |
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| Subject: Re: Japanese actresses, nudity and cinema Mon 12 Feb - 19:42 | |
| i say something now... are the actresses playing naked are they bad actresses ?
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| Subject: Re: Japanese actresses, nudity and cinema Tue 13 Feb - 14:34 | |
| | not all! find of all sort. starlets and mature actresses often take clothes off but seen more starlets wanting to climb faster. |
|  | | geesehoward4life Evil American


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| Subject: Re: Japanese actresses, nudity and cinema Wed 14 Feb - 22:40 | |
| Sorry for the slow reply Mood.
As for managers, just males in general, men in general. We all have a certain amount of pervyness to us, no matter what country, culture or society. The more conservative, then the more apt that the pervyness will be higher behind closed doors.
Take for instance Takashi Miike is Le Perv, but he does a great job of masking his pervyness since the society allows certain things and won't tolerate others. So he can cast Chiaki as Agi, who is on the header for this site and then make sure to give the audience a "Soul Train cameraman" pervy shot like this;
oh sorry, I mean... like this!
To me, I think all men, coming from the perspective of a man, at one point or another wonders "Wonder what she looks like naked?" It may not be an immediate reaction and it really depends on the man and what kind of man he is. But when I look at the Japanese Agency managers... they have a lot of power and they can make or break a persons career I think a little bit more than Western managers.
I haven't found the entire interview, but when Chiaki was talking about Great Yokai I did find a small amount where she said "I play as Agi, she's a bad Yokai. I wore this corset that had my buttocks hanging out." Now she found it interesting and laughed it off. Mind you she had no problems with the whole photobooks so it also comes back to the actresses themselves. I know that Chiaki was VERY HAPPY to finally turn 20 and be able to be considered an adult and she inferred rather easily that it would help her in regards to her acting roles and being able to play more parts... well... the racer roles, the more mature, adult setting roles, would be a big part of turning 20 and having more access to these roles. Some will require some slight nudity.
If the nudity has any real merit, then cool! If its just for pure pervy purposes, then I would rather find some sort of way for me, GEESE, to be the sole audience member or that particular performance of Le Pervyness!
Mind you even when Chiaki gets killed as Agi, Takashi gives you another Soul Train Cameraman shot;
She has a nice BUTT! Okay I'm done now, LATER! |
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| Subject: Re: Japanese actresses, nudity and cinema Thu 22 Feb - 13:10 | |
| mood, I've read somewhere that in The banquet, Zhang Ziyi didn't play the nude scenes. Actress Shao Xiaoshan said she substituted for Zhang in some bathing and sex scenes. However, she is not listed in the credits. she have been swapped for these spicy scenes. must be something in Ziyi's contract saying that she will not play nude scenes. she plays love scenes but not nude.
geesehoward there is a chance to see Chiaki naked about 0% in my opinion. but the land of the rising sun is so rich of unexpected issues.
from the amazing pool of japanses actresses, one will never be seen nude is perhaps the lovely Takako Matsu. she's well known as a unbelievable shy person. have a look on some spicy photos we've found of her.
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|  | | geesehoward4life Evil American


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| Subject: Chiaki, Nudity and the Future Fri 23 Feb - 0:29 | |
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0% Chance to see Chiaki naked?!?!? Ummm, I'll take those odds, because in the end you are very very right! Japan... is a land of sudden surprises, but ohhh so NOT shocking surprises. Least for me it isn't. If she keeps following the path that she's on... stuck with Space Craft who can't seem to OR doesn't want to, move her more to doing International movie work... then eventually the Japanese public will get tired of her.
I already knew from day one that Chiaki is NOT seen as attractive to the mass of Japanese audiences. She is far from a Kou Shibasaki or Aya Ueto in regards to Japanese acceptable beauty standards and "big budget" roles. How the hell can Aya go to Hong Kong for her TV Drama and shoot there, yet Chiaki, who has international fans, is still doing so-so work, PRIMARILY within Japan.
Since the actors and actresses do not have as much control as they could or should, I believe that, especially in Chiaki's case, good movie and TV making is crucial. I have stated already that Chiaki's agency seems either unprepared or unwilling to put her on the shelf and have her learn at least enough English to TRY-OUT for parts in European or American TV movies, commercials or actual big screen movies.
Eventually these so-so decisions are going to dry up Chiaki's opportunities, not because I say so, but because REALITY says so. This will ultimately lead to the greater possibility and pressure of doing some sort of nudity to keep the flame of interest from totally dying out.
I am still trying to find out what agency Hiromi Endo is or was in, because she has disappeared off the face of the earth. I would like to see more of Anna Nagata from Battle Royal and The Ring, but she has been nowhere to be found in years!
Japan is just like anywhere else on this earth when it comes to people trying to make it as an entertainer/actress, BUT! It's normal 9-to-5, everyday life is NOT like everywhere else. It is crushing at times and their is not nearly enough reward for it, so many who find a means to shine outside of the normal 9-to-5 try very very very hard to never have to go into the standard workforce!
I would hope that Chiaki would start to see that she needs to try to push her agency to move her into doing more Foreign work, where she has a much larger fanbase, before they dry up her interest at home with subpar movies and so-so dramas.
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| Subject: Re: Japanese actresses, nudity and cinema Fri 23 Feb - 21:53 | |
| i will have many alot deception if she turn naked in a film  |
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| Subject: Re: Japanese actresses, nudity and cinema Thu 1 Mar - 14:27 | |
| english - in France we have some actress who are have been nude in some good films and that is good for the film and they always are well loved by the people  |
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| Subject: Re: Japanese actresses, nudity and cinema Tue 6 Mar - 19:53 | |
| j ai vu plusieurs sites qui parle que Kyoko Fukada a tourné des séquences nue? c'est vrai ça ou c'est bidon?
pour moi c'est impossible - mais bon  |
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